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Re: EuroSunday July 5th!!!
Posted: Jul Wed 08, 2009 9:05 am
by kompressorgolf
if the pothole was the issue, there would be dozens of skid marks there, and it wouldve been fixed by now/

ESPECIALLY with a 150ft non guard-railed drop off
Re: EuroSunday July 5th!!!
Posted: Jul Wed 08, 2009 10:37 am
by Roadhog
kompressorgolf wrote:if the pothole was the issue, there would be dozens of skid marks there, and it wouldve been fixed by now/

ESPECIALLY with a 150ft non guard-railed drop off
Probably just the usual case of off throttle oversteer.
Re: EuroSunday July 5th!!!
Posted: Jul Wed 08, 2009 3:33 pm
by squabeggs
From what I've heard and seen, these cars like to get a little light from time to time. Glad everyone made it out ok.
Similar? This is what I picture in my head...
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You are not alone....
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFQraYU3L04[/youtube]
Also, I think a name change is necessary...EURO sunday? How about... Jameripean Sunday? I'm all for including all types of sweet cars, but I think the Euro has got to go unless it is ALL Euro. /wuss rant
Re: EuroSunday July 5th!!!
Posted: Jul Wed 08, 2009 6:39 pm
by S406
That first video really shows what a POS the Elise is. That is just ridiculous to see a so called performance orientated car get out of control that easily. And to tack on a hefty price like they have just makes it seem so much worse. But I guess if you only drive on a straight perfectly flat road you are good to go!

Re: EuroSunday July 5th!!!
Posted: Jul Wed 08, 2009 6:46 pm
by Roadhog
In that video he was off the gas... Engine braking + light back end = perfect recipe for a spin
Re: EuroSunday July 5th!!!
Posted: Jul Wed 08, 2009 6:53 pm
by S406
I dont see how a rear/mid engine rear wheel drive car can have a light ass end. Maybe Im wrong on that???
Re: EuroSunday July 5th!!!
Posted: Jul Wed 08, 2009 8:16 pm
by Roadhog
S406 wrote:I dont see how a rear/mid engine rear wheel drive car can have a light ass end. Maybe Im wrong on that???
Well pretty much any car will have the back end swing out if you are going around a corner too fast, and let off the gas. That causes all the weight to transfer to the front, and the back end gets light.
Re: EuroSunday July 5th!!!
Posted: Jul Wed 08, 2009 8:22 pm
by Rennwagen1
Roadhog wrote:Probably just the usual case of off throttle oversteer.
Agreed. Look at the skid marks.
Re: EuroSunday July 5th!!!
Posted: Jul Wed 08, 2009 9:42 pm
by Ramrod
My $0.02
The Lotus is an exceptional car. Don't make the mistake of comparing it with many of the sports cars that were on the cruise, or anything built by volkswagon. Lotus makes street legal track cars. It's purpose built to be an unforgiving drivers car with minimal electronic interference. It's little more than a grown up go kart with turn signals and head lights. There extremely agile and their power to weight ratio is excellent allowing them to maintain speed in corners and accelerate quickly out of them. I've seen a lotus paired with a good drive make fools out of much more expensive sports cars on track day.
The danger is making the assumption that it's a street car, and treating it as one. I won't speculate about Glenn. I don't know him, and I wasn't there. But with any car of this nature, knowing it's limits and the subsequent consequences of reaching them is the best protection you have. No ESP can top that. I'd advise anyone prone to testing the limits of their car to invest in a few track days. Give yourself a chance to test your skills at their limit in a safe enviroment. I promise you'll have a different perspective next time you hit that mountain road, and you'll make yourself and everyone else safer.
Re: EuroSunday July 5th!!!
Posted: Jul Wed 08, 2009 9:53 pm
by sneakyboy1
Ramrod wrote:My $0.02
The Lotus is an exceptional car. Don't make the mistake of comparing it with many of the sports cars that were on the cruise, or anything built by volkswagon. Lotus makes street legal track cars. It's purpose built to be an unforgiving drivers car with minimal electronic interference. It's little more than a grown up go kart with turn signals and head lights. There extremely agile and their power to weight ratio is excellent allowing them to maintain speed in corners and accelerate quickly out of them. I've seen a lotus paired with a good drive make fools out of much more expensive sports cars on track day.
The danger is making the assumption that it's a street car, and treating it as one. I won't speculate about Glenn. I don't know him, and I wasn't there. But with any car of this nature, knowing it's limits and the subsequent consequences of reaching them is the best protection you have. No ESP can top that. I'd advise anyone prone to testing the limits of their car to invest in a few track days. Give yourself a chance to test your skills at their limit in a safe enviroment. I promise you'll have a different perspective next time you hit that mountain road, and you'll make yourself and everyone else safer.
Well said lad!
