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Wagon springs...

Posted: Dec Wed 21, 2011 2:10 am
by squabeggs
So, I figure it's time I got new suspension. My tires are cupping on front insides, the wheels are balanced...or were 1500 miles ago, but I still get a bit of steering wheel wobble like they were out of balance. Another big clue would be that I'm still running the original stock shocks and springs...just rolled over to 100k.

So, I'm pretty sure I have a good excuse to tell the wife that we NEED a new set up.

Not looking to slam it. Maybe something like 2" up front and 1.6" rear. Seems like alot of sites sell sedan only stuff. I found a set of springs on MJM that are wagon specific. They are B&G...anyone with any experience with this brand?

Also need to find shocks to pair with them.

What else should I get, that I need when doing something like this? A "refresh" kit?

Will I need swaybars even though I'm not slamming it?

Appreciate any knowledge you can pass on.

mkIV jetta wagon, 2.slo

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Re: Wagon springs...

Posted: Dec Wed 21, 2011 2:11 am
by squabeggs
Oh yeah...not looking to break the bank either.

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Re: Wagon springs...

Posted: Dec Wed 21, 2011 9:42 am
by Rennwagen1
I doubt your springs are worn out after just 100K, (shocks maybe)but we won't tell the wife that.....on the mk4 I would look at front swaybar exfension links. Do some research, you may not need them w/only a 2" front drop, but it sucks to hit driveshafts on swaybars. Makes a nasty sound too, I would imagine. Other than that I super heart lowered wagons.

Re: Wagon springs...

Posted: Dec Wed 21, 2011 12:23 pm
by Mikewire
The wobble and cupping is something an alignment should fix. Too much toe or + camber will cause wear on the inside of the tires.

Springs won't be worn out, but more likely you have swing arm bushings that are worn. They need to be pressed out, new ones pressed in. The R32 bushings are a great OEM replacement for those.

Jetta front ends are pretty simple, so if you do a drop, you shouldn't have problems. My Jetta was dropped about 1.5" in the front and I had no swaybar rubbing issues, even on big bumps. If you get short springs, get struts and shocks that will handle a shorter spring - the OEM struts and shocks will blow out if you run lowering springs with them.

If you can afford coilovers, go that route, it's worth it. They bolt right in and are adjustable, which is super handy for getting that ride height just right, especially on a wagon where reverse rake looks terrible. I don't think there is a specific coilover for a wagon, and you should be able to use the same as what a sedan would use, I could be wrong there though so do your due diligence.

Re: Wagon springs...

Posted: Dec Thu 22, 2011 12:15 am
by squabeggs
Agreed on reverse rake.

I am probably gonna wait til spring to make a decision. (no garage = lame) This way I have plenty of time to save up and do some more research.

So far, I'm looking at:
FK High tech sport...OR...Koni SRTs Paired with:
B&G sport springs...OR...or Koni sport springs.

Also, I have a lead on a mk1 TT front sway, which SHOULD be a cheap alternative to buying an aftermarket one...if I even end up needing one.

Whats the deal with the strut tower bars? Only really needed on a more performance oriented car? Would one give a 2.slo any added benefits?

As far as coilovers, I've looked at the Raceland "ultimos" everyone on the 'tex seems so fond of at the moment, and the older red racelands. Not sure I'll really be able to afford some of the more expensive options.

Anyone ever run any racelands?

Good info, thanks

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Re: Wagon springs...

Posted: Dec Thu 22, 2011 5:04 pm
by Ramrod
I would recommend coilovers, and if I drove my car more, there's no doubt I'd ditch my sport springs for a proper setup.