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Bent valves...or not?

Posted: Jun Thu 14, 2007 9:58 pm
by Mikewire
So I pulled the head on my Passat 16v and expected to find some really bent valves. But, I don't see anything really bad, or bad at all. Would you guys take a look at the pictures I took and let me know what you think?

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My little "helper" working on his bike:

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Posted: Jun Fri 15, 2007 9:18 am
by t53a
looks ok to me. but i did see the pic of the teeth on the timing belt sheered off. best way to check for sure would to have the head psi checked. i think only a machine shop can tell for sure.

are there any marks in the top of the pistons from valve + piston contact?

Posted: Jun Fri 15, 2007 11:31 am
by Mikewire
littlewhitebeast wrote:looks ok to me. but i did see the pic of the teeth on the timing belt sheered off. best way to check for sure would to have the head psi checked. i think only a machine shop can tell for sure.

are there any marks in the top of the pistons from valve + piston contact?
Yep the teeth on the belt were shredded. Granted I doubt the belt had ever been changed and the odo has 141+k on it. So, I figure it is a bad belt/possible head warpage from overheating (thx for the tip custom vw). I have yet to check it on a straightedge because I have another head to replace the one with bent valves...only no valves look bent. No marks on the pistons - just the indent.

Posted: Jun Fri 15, 2007 11:40 am
by t53a
MikeWire wrote:
littlewhitebeast wrote:looks ok to me. but i did see the pic of the teeth on the timing belt sheered off. best way to check for sure would to have the head psi checked. i think only a machine shop can tell for sure.

are there any marks in the top of the pistons from valve + piston contact?
Yep the teeth on the belt were shredded. Granted I doubt the belt had ever been changed and the odo has 141+k on it. So, I figure it is a bad belt/possible head warpage from overheating (thx for the tip custom vw). I have yet to check it on a straightedge because I have another head to replace the one with bent valves...only no valves look bent. No marks on the pistons - just the indent.
well if you don't see marks from piston to valve contact then i would suspect the valves are fine.

the car over heated? as you said check with a straight edge by going from corner to corner, side to side and using feeler gauges to check for a gap.

if all checks out fine slap it back on and fire her up!

ps: id be willing to take one of those 16v heads off your hands. (future plan for the rocco)

Posted: Jun Fri 15, 2007 12:09 pm
by Ramrod
I envy that simple engine. I really should have picked something like that as my first project, but no, I have to choose something with the complexity of the space shuttle. Trial by fire, I guess.

Posted: Jun Fri 15, 2007 12:09 pm
by Mikewire
littlewhitebeast wrote: well if you don't see marks from piston to valve contact then i would suspect the valves are fine.

the car over heated? as you said check with a straight edge by going from corner to corner, side to side and using feeler gauges to check for a gap.

if all checks out fine slap it back on and fire her up!

ps: id be willing to take one of those 16v heads off your hands. (future plan for the rocco)
Cool - a new gasket and it's back on the road. Anyway the extra head is yours - how about $100? I paid $125 +shipping (sux) but I want it out of my garage.

Posted: Jun Fri 15, 2007 12:18 pm
by Roadhog
Ramrod wrote:I envy that simple engine. I really should have picked something like that as my first project, but no, I have to choose something with the complexity of the space shuttle. Trial by fire, I guess.
I can relate to that. But the Rado is rather simple... sorta.. :mrgreen:

Posted: Jun Sat 16, 2007 11:06 am
by t53a
MikeWire wrote:Cool - a new gasket and it's back on the road. Anyway the extra head is yours - how about $100? I paid $125 +shipping (sux) but I want it out of my garage.
sounds like a deal. let me get a paycheck from the new job first then ill take it off your hands :thumbsup: